. >> bill: beside sean penn who else knows it? >> sean penn? you know what else i want to do? charity farms. >> bill: give the food to the poor people. i will help with you that. >> you would. >> bill: do you know how much money we give away selling our gear and gizmos? millions of dollars. >> that is a good way to live my belief. my book is about living belief. if you are going to say something, back it up. >> bill: we respect that ms. barr. >> are you serious? >> bill: you get your charity farm going on we will help you out on it. now, you are an old time socialist. >> not a long time. i think i'm a present time. >> bill: do you believe that president obama is a socialist? >> no, god no. >> bill: are you happy with him? >> not that much. i don't think -- i tend to read paul krugman a lot. >> bill: that's a problem right there. >> i knew you would be pleased. >> bill: he would be. according to the dictates of fall he should have done so much more in terms of the bank loans and in terms of the revitalization. the money, there should have been a bigger kick start he wasn't aggr